Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys because we’re doing two Italian ‘80s classics with The Ogre and The Church.

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We start by talking about what we’ve done involving horror recently. We talk about the recent entry in the Evil Dead franchise Evil Dead Rise, and Justin talks about seeing the films Renfield and Bury The Bride.

Up first is The Church. We talk about the convoluted history of the films name, as it was originally intended to be part of Bava’s Demoni series, as well as the history of Italian horror films being attached to one another seemingly at random. We briefly discuss Michele Soavi’s filmography.

We give a summary of the film, and how the English dub version and the version with subtitles are subtly different from one another. We talk about the film’s slight similarity to folk horror, and the peculiar phenomenon of having both a corrupt church that is being set up as killing innocent people, but also that the people they kill might be devil worshippers and how this makes the entire situation extremely hopeless.

We briefly discuss the film’s lack of actual demons as compared to the prior two entries in the series.

            Up next is The Ogre. Justin talks about how despite not really liking the film he found the “gooey” sequences of the film quite effective and scary. We talk about how even though the prior Demoni films aren’t great they’re at least engaging. Liam talks about how the films limitations may have been due to it being a TV movie.

We talk about the writer of the film having a connection to a lot of the landmark ‘80s Italian horror films. Liam talks about how the film resembles “a Fulci film without teeth” in that it relies heavily on surreal imagery but lacks the blood and violence of a Fulci film.

We touch upon how the film has far too many characters that zero work is done with to make the audience care about. We conclude by talking about how the film hints at some great practical work but ultimately does nothing with it.

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