Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys, because we’re joined by Dianna Koch of the Giallo Of The Month Club podcast and we’re talking Scream IV and Detention, both from 2011.

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We start by talking about what we’ve done involving horror recently. Dianna talks about interviewing Thomas Hardiman and his film, Medusa Deluxe, as well as binging on the show Riverdale, as well as seeing The Last Voyage Of The Demeter, The Nun II, and Munchies, amongst others! Liam talks about The Blackening, The Corpse Bride, Coraline, and Wendell & Wild. Justin talks about the films Spirit Of Fear, Blood Flower, and Good Boy, as well as re-watching The X-Files.

Up first is Detention. We begin by discussing the early hype around the film when it first came out, back in 2011, and Dianna explains how she first became aware of the it and while she initially disliked the film, she still dislikes it.

We discuss the myriad “meta” films that came out around the same time as this film. Justin dives deep into why he didn’t enjoy the film, such as the frenzied pacing, relentless jokes, hackneyed bits, outdated humor, and the fact that the movie isn’t nearly as clever as it believed itself to be.

Liam argues that the people who take themselves too seriously (Dianna and Justin) are the target of the film, and how a lot of people actually enjoyed the movie after repeated viewings and realizing what the joke is.

            Up next is Scream IV. Dianna talks about how this is her second favorite of the franchise and how it embodies everything that is great about the franchise: the emphasis on metatextuality, David Arquette being charming, Ghostface being especially brutal, and the motives of the killers, as well it being Wes Craven’s last film. We talk about what we don’t like about the film, including the failed red herring of Marley Shelton’s character, and the lack of Nick Cave’s “Red Right Hand.”


Liam shares the belief that it is the second-best Scream film and how his viewing this time might suffer from not watching the prior films immediately before watching this. He argues that the pacing is better and it is a much better executed film, but the film’s attempt at “commentary” falls flat. We talk about how teenagers are portrayed far better in this film than in the first film.


Justin talks about how he still gets easily annoyed with teenagers being super eloquent when it comes to horror films and how the Woodsboro in this film feels like it has a very real history when it comes to the murders. Liam talks more about Marley Shelton’s character feeling wholly unnecessary, and Justin talks about how unlike Detention, this film actually is as clever as it believes itself to be.

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