Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys as we’re talking about 1984’s Friday The 13th Part IV: The Final Chapter and 1986’s Friday The 13th Part VI: Jason Lives

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We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. Liam discusses listening to the Dungeon Crawler Carl series of novels, and be we briefly talk about our favorite audiobooks that add something to the source material. We talk about the film Touch Me, and Liam talks about listening to The Stand on audiobook. Justin talks about the films The Whistle and Bodycam. We talk at length about the film Undertone.

Up first is Friday The 13th: The Final Chapter. We open by talking about the appeal of Jason Vorhees as being based on the fear of the other in that until the sixth movie he is essentially a mentally challenged hermit living in the woods. We touch upon the upcoming series.

Justin talk abouts the checkered history of Paramount’s support of the franchise in that they were “becoming embarrassed” with their association with the series and intended to kill off Jason and have this be the end of the series but the financial response of the films inspired them to continue churning out sequels, and Justin ascertains that these movies are the epitome of the worst part of capitalism.

We talk about the various problems with the horror community in general and toxic fandom as a whole. Justin talks about how not minding the first three F13 movies he doesn’t really find the character of Jason Vorhees compelling at all.  Justin talks about what he likes about the film: the filmmaker decided to make a child the protagonist in a film that was very clearly not at all made for kids, and not just a protagonist but a smart protagonist.

Liam talks about his experience with these films in that part six was the first of the series he saw and how he weirdly misremembers them, including a moment in which a character is murdered in an over the top almost silly manner (the infamous “he’s killing me!” scene) as well as the many, many extended chase scenes, and how the mystique of the character is ruined by shots of him running, and Justin adds that either a brisk walk or straight up just showing up is the only acceptable way slasher villains should move. We talk about Tommy Jarvis’ method of fucking with Jason, and how it’s at least innovative for a horror movie.

Up next is Friday The 13th Part VI: Jason Lives. We start by talking about how this is the first film where Jason is overtly supernatural, and that Tommy did actually kill him but now he’s resurrected and actually undead.

Justin talks about how it’s weirdly believable that Tommy would need to see the body before believing Jason was actually dead. He also talks about how unlike part 4 he finds this scene entirely irredeemable.

Liam talks about how the movie doesn’t hold up to his memory of it. Liam talks about how ridiculous it is that everyone has willingly forgets about Jason.

He also talks about how there’s a weird sense of humor in the film that isn’t present in the prior films, especially in the infamous paintball scene, and how he didn’t really remember that as a kid, although he says the “quippiness” was a bit much. We discuss how the ending of chaining Jason to the bottom of the lake sounds cool but there’s no real logic to it.

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